This section made me really sad. Galinda’s friend was mean to trick Elphie to coming to wherever they were spending the summer, making a fool of Elphie and Boq. Boq is so cute how he is trying and trying to get Galinda’s affections and Galinda is just so mean to him. She even lets him kiss her. She’s just leading him on continuously! Poor Boq…:(
Now to one of my favorite characters thus far in the book: Doctor Dillamond. I like how Elphie is working with him over the summer, being his secretary and following him as he tries to discover the similarities between Animal, animal, and human tissues. He’s one smart Goat: he invents a prototype microscope and gets a look at cells! I admire his ambition and determination and that he was able to work himself up from a lowly status to being a university professor. And in a parallel to the civil rights movements, he is KILLED! I wanted to CRY! One of the biggest advocates to Animal rights was MURDERED just like Martin Luther King Jr. was killed for trying to get African-Americans civil rights! Elphie tried to act strong throughout this entire ordeal and this has had a great affect on her. With Doctor Dillamond gone, Animal and minority rights will still be a major theme in this book. Even later in the section, Boq and Elphie discuss Dillamond’s breakthroughs and what the Wizard was up to at the time with the Banns.
On the topic of Animals, in this section, Boq, Crope, Tibbett (and I think that it’s just so great that Boq and his friends are helping Elphaba out), and Elphaba are able to discover previous religious-based ideas on how Animals came into the world. Both ideas, described on pages 114-5 in my book, use baptism as the major idea of how Animals came into the world, showing how religion is a major part of this text. I also thought that the piece of art that Boq found in the library was interesting and also suggests that witches may have created the first Animals.
I wrote so much that there has to be a part II....
In relation to Dillamond’s murder I also found it interesting that Ama Clutch suddenly fell ill, in the same way that Galinda had originally described to Madame Morrible. On my page 123, Galinda curses “‘When I’m a sorcerer, I’ll have my revenge on her [Ama Clutch] for that [her injury that forced her to be Elphaba’s roomie].’” Is it possible that Galinda (now called Glinda without the “GA”) actually has magical powers unlike in the play? Glinda even thinks herself that it was an act of sorcery, but also believing that Madame Morrible had something to do with it since she was the only person Glinda told the lie to (133). Could it be that Madame Morrible played a part in Dillamond’s murder and cursed Ama Clutch to hide it since she seemed to see something the night before the murder?
Some very important things happen in this section that we have been waiting for. Casey should be happy that Nessarose has finally made her way to Shiz. With Nessa’s arrival, we discover that there is another sibling of Elphie’s: a ten year old boy named Shell, after the dead Turtle Heart. Since this child is a boy, is it possible that he is actually Frex’s? With Melena’s history, I doubt it, but what if it was Melena’s affairs that kept her from having the boy Frex was waiting for? Nessa also brings Frex’s religious voice into the picture. She constantly talks of her unionist beliefs, allowing us a window into exactly what they are. The second long awaited event was the arrival of the very attractive Fiyero, who is attacked by a set of enchanted antlers when he enters a lecture. And the second day he comes to class and witnesses Elphaba inquire about the lion cub that is brought into class. In contrast to the play, he and Elphaba, to an extent, take no part in helping free the cub, and the event also has a powerful affect on Elphie just like Dillamond's death. Is there some sort of pattern here? Third and finally, the ruby slippers have now come into play as a gift to Nessarose from her father.
On one final note, in regards to my comments about the second reading about the Wizard’s possible arrival in Oz, the concluding pages of this section support my theory. Nanny brings up the Wizard’s arrival when she and the girls are with Madame Morrible before Nessa receives the shoes: “‘When the Wizard took over the Palace all those years ago and he had the Ozma Regent jailed, we all thought that the sainted Ozma child would call down disaster upon the Wizard’s head’” (148).
Okay, I'm finally done with this. I'm just so in love with this book that I write this much. I think that it was just this section that I had so much to say about...
Well now that Kate has basically said everything there is to say in her two comment post, I guess the rest of us don’t need to say anything:) haha, just kidding. Nice job though, Kate:)
On page 136 it says, “Doctor Dillamond? Do I know of him?” said Boq. “He’s the most impressive biology tutor in Shiz.” “By the by,” said Galinda, “he’s a Goat.” It’s interesting how Boq recognizes an actual quality about Doctor Dillamond; he recognizes one of his talents. On the other hand, Galinda can only see that he is a “Goat” which is the equivalent of saying he is an “Animal.” I think that this shows how shallow Galinda can be at certain times, because she can only look at someone through what’s on the outside instead of looking on the inside. She does this with Elphaba as well.
On page 143 it says, “And when the good Doctor is finished ferreting out the difference between Animals and people, I will propose he apply the same arguments to the differences between the sexes,” said Elphaba. I think things may get slightly better for them, but I can’t be sure. Do you guys think this will actually happen? Will things get better for the Animals and the women in the story? Or will they continue to be viewed as minority groups who don’t deserve the same rights as humans and men?
“That tiktok thing works at Crage Hall. I think it’s called Grommetik. Usually it shadows Madame Morrible like a lovesick puppy. I don’t think it saw me.” Just so I’m clear on this, is the “it” Elphaba is referring to, a clock? I wasn’t entirely sure on that.
Overall, I liked this section of the book despite it being different from the play. Like how Nessarose gets the ruby slippers from her father and not from Elphaba’s sorcery. Can’t wait for the next section:)
So that was a lot of different things to happen at once.
Katie mentioned this, but I really hate Galinda's stupid little friends. I haven't really liked many people in this book so far if you haven't noticed. I can't believe that they would play that kind of joke on Elphaba and then Galinda just does nothing but complain about how embarrased she is. It seemed like they were sort of getting along but apparently not.
On to the arrival of her sister, Nessarose. I don't like her either, suprised? She's very conceited. I get that she has her disabilities and that her family needs to take care of her, but when she got the shoes from her father I was really upset. She gets the shoes and the first thing she does is does is make Elphaba put then on her, brag about then, and then not care that her sister didn't get anything at all. It seems so unfair that her own father wouldn't even show any kind of care towards her.
I'm a little suspicious about this brother. They mention him about once. We don't even get to find out where he is at the time or anything. We find out he's 10 and perfectly healthy. That's it. It makes it seem as if something is wrong with him, maybe not physically, but mentally. Nanny doesn't even mention him and she loves to talk about everything.
There's also the change in Galinda happening. She claims it's because of her Ama becoming sick and she that it's her fault. I personally think it was Madama Morrible. Just my guess. Like Galinda mentioned in the story, she was the only one that knew about Galinda's lie and she was very anti-Animals with her poetry. Galinda changing her name to Glinda was sad. For someone who was so into the GA before, she seems to have shed it very easily.
I agree with Cheyenne on the not being able to wait part. I saw the next big section's picture and I know something crazy is goign to go down. :)
Oh, one last thing. The picture Boq found in the library that he gave to Elphaba to give to Doctor Dillamond. Do you think that combined with his research got him killed. Maybe the photo brought him on to a new conclusion that someone didn't like. No one mentioned the picture and I thought it seemed important.
I hope the link works...If it doesn't, this is what it looks like: "The Witch held in her hands a beast of unrecognizable species, though it was clearly drowned, or nearly drowned. She cradled it in an arm that, without attention to actual skeletal flexibility, lovingly encircled the beast's wed, spiky-furred back." (125)
THAT’S RIGHT! The picture at the front of my book looks like the picture described by Boq. Not exactly, but pretty close. The witch from the myth is like Elphaba! The witch in the picture (described by Boq) is holding the animal in a loving way, and “she was nearly motherly”. The witch cares for the animals, while other people don’t. This is similar to Elphaba, who cares for animals and the Animals. Both “witches” see past the extorter and care for the creatures. This connects with a theme in the book: looking beyond the surface.
I also have another little quirk I found in the story! You all probably got this one, but in case you didn’t, here it is! “In one form or another, we all know some of the origin myths that predate the Oziad” (114). Did anyone else connect this to the Iliad? I just thought it was so cool!
DILLAMOND: “Nothing truly baa-aaa-aaa-ad….sorry. bad.”
ReplyDeleteELPHABA: “It couldn’t happen here…in Oz.”
This section made me really sad. Galinda’s friend was mean to trick Elphie to coming to wherever they were spending the summer, making a fool of Elphie and Boq. Boq is so cute how he is trying and trying to get Galinda’s affections and Galinda is just so mean to him. She even lets him kiss her. She’s just leading him on continuously! Poor Boq…:(
Now to one of my favorite characters thus far in the book: Doctor Dillamond. I like how Elphie is working with him over the summer, being his secretary and following him as he tries to discover the similarities between Animal, animal, and human tissues. He’s one smart Goat: he invents a prototype microscope and gets a look at cells! I admire his ambition and determination and that he was able to work himself up from a lowly status to being a university professor. And in a parallel to the civil rights movements, he is KILLED! I wanted to CRY! One of the biggest advocates to Animal rights was MURDERED just like Martin Luther King Jr. was killed for trying to get African-Americans civil rights! Elphie tried to act strong throughout this entire ordeal and this has had a great affect on her. With Doctor Dillamond gone, Animal and minority rights will still be a major theme in this book. Even later in the section, Boq and Elphie discuss Dillamond’s breakthroughs and what the Wizard was up to at the time with the Banns.
On the topic of Animals, in this section, Boq, Crope, Tibbett (and I think that it’s just so great that Boq and his friends are helping Elphaba out), and Elphaba are able to discover previous religious-based ideas on how Animals came into the world. Both ideas, described on pages 114-5 in my book, use baptism as the major idea of how Animals came into the world, showing how religion is a major part of this text. I also thought that the piece of art that Boq found in the library was interesting and also suggests that witches may have created the first Animals.
I wrote so much that there has to be a part II....
okay so here's part II.....
ReplyDeleteIn relation to Dillamond’s murder I also found it interesting that Ama Clutch suddenly fell ill, in the same way that Galinda had originally described to Madame Morrible. On my page 123, Galinda curses “‘When I’m a sorcerer, I’ll have my revenge on her [Ama Clutch] for that [her injury that forced her to be Elphaba’s roomie].’” Is it possible that Galinda (now called Glinda without the “GA”) actually has magical powers unlike in the play? Glinda even thinks herself that it was an act of sorcery, but also believing that Madame Morrible had something to do with it since she was the only person Glinda told the lie to (133). Could it be that Madame Morrible played a part in Dillamond’s murder and cursed Ama Clutch to hide it since she seemed to see something the night before the murder?
Some very important things happen in this section that we have been waiting for. Casey should be happy that Nessarose has finally made her way to Shiz. With Nessa’s arrival, we discover that there is another sibling of Elphie’s: a ten year old boy named Shell, after the dead Turtle Heart. Since this child is a boy, is it possible that he is actually Frex’s? With Melena’s history, I doubt it, but what if it was Melena’s affairs that kept her from having the boy Frex was waiting for? Nessa also brings Frex’s religious voice into the picture. She constantly talks of her unionist beliefs, allowing us a window into exactly what they are. The second long awaited event was the arrival of the very attractive Fiyero, who is attacked by a set of enchanted antlers when he enters a lecture. And the second day he comes to class and witnesses Elphaba inquire about the lion cub that is brought into class. In contrast to the play, he and Elphaba, to an extent, take no part in helping free the cub, and the event also has a powerful affect on Elphie just like Dillamond's death. Is there some sort of pattern here? Third and finally, the ruby slippers have now come into play as a gift to Nessarose from her father.
On one final note, in regards to my comments about the second reading about the Wizard’s possible arrival in Oz, the concluding pages of this section support my theory. Nanny brings up the Wizard’s arrival when she and the girls are with Madame Morrible before Nessa receives the shoes: “‘When the Wizard took over the Palace all those years ago and he had the Ozma Regent jailed, we all thought that the sainted Ozma child would call down disaster upon the Wizard’s head’” (148).
Okay, I'm finally done with this. I'm just so in love with this book that I write this much. I think that it was just this section that I had so much to say about...
Well now that Kate has basically said everything there is to say in her two comment post, I guess the rest of us don’t need to say anything:) haha, just kidding. Nice job though, Kate:)
ReplyDeleteOn page 136 it says, “Doctor Dillamond? Do I know of him?” said Boq. “He’s the most impressive biology tutor in Shiz.” “By the by,” said Galinda, “he’s a Goat.” It’s interesting how Boq recognizes an actual quality about Doctor Dillamond; he recognizes one of his talents. On the other hand, Galinda can only see that he is a “Goat” which is the equivalent of saying he is an “Animal.” I think that this shows how shallow Galinda can be at certain times, because she can only look at someone through what’s on the outside instead of looking on the inside. She does this with Elphaba as well.
On page 143 it says, “And when the good Doctor is finished ferreting out the difference between Animals and people, I will propose he apply the same arguments to the differences between the sexes,” said Elphaba. I think things may get slightly better for them, but I can’t be sure. Do you guys think this will actually happen? Will things get better for the Animals and the women in the story? Or will they continue to be viewed as minority groups who don’t deserve the same rights as humans and men?
“That tiktok thing works at Crage Hall. I think it’s called Grommetik. Usually it shadows Madame Morrible like a lovesick puppy. I don’t think it saw me.” Just so I’m clear on this, is the “it” Elphaba is referring to, a clock? I wasn’t entirely sure on that.
Overall, I liked this section of the book despite it being different from the play. Like how Nessarose gets the ruby slippers from her father and not from Elphaba’s sorcery. Can’t wait for the next section:)
So that was a lot of different things to happen at once.
ReplyDeleteKatie mentioned this, but I really hate Galinda's stupid little friends. I haven't really liked many people in this book so far if you haven't noticed. I can't believe that they would play that kind of joke on Elphaba and then Galinda just does nothing but complain about how embarrased she is. It seemed like they were sort of getting along but apparently not.
On to the arrival of her sister, Nessarose. I don't like her either, suprised? She's very conceited. I get that she has her disabilities and that her family needs to take care of her, but when she got the shoes from her father I was really upset. She gets the shoes and the first thing she does is does is make Elphaba put then on her, brag about then, and then not care that her sister didn't get anything at all. It seems so unfair that her own father wouldn't even show any kind of care towards her.
I'm a little suspicious about this brother. They mention him about once. We don't even get to find out where he is at the time or anything. We find out he's 10 and perfectly healthy. That's it. It makes it seem as if something is wrong with him, maybe not physically, but mentally. Nanny doesn't even mention him and she loves to talk about everything.
There's also the change in Galinda happening. She claims it's because of her Ama becoming sick and she that it's her fault. I personally think it was Madama Morrible. Just my guess. Like Galinda mentioned in the story, she was the only one that knew about Galinda's lie and she was very anti-Animals with her poetry. Galinda changing her name to Glinda was sad. For someone who was so into the GA before, she seems to have shed it very easily.
I agree with Cheyenne on the not being able to wait part. I saw the next big section's picture and I know something crazy is goign to go down. :)
-Emily
Oh, one last thing. The picture Boq found in the library that he gave to Elphaba to give to Doctor Dillamond. Do you think that combined with his research got him killed. Maybe the photo brought him on to a new conclusion that someone didn't like. No one mentioned the picture and I thought it seemed important.
ReplyDeleteSorry that this is a little late, but I was opening my book today and guess what I saw....
ReplyDeletehttp://images.booksamillion.com/covers2/ebook/ImageType-100/0355-1/%7B5E10CB01-62CF-41AA-A14C-AFA08986454C%7DImg100.jpg
I hope the link works...If it doesn't, this is what it looks like: "The Witch held in her hands a beast of unrecognizable species, though it was clearly drowned, or nearly drowned. She cradled it in an arm that, without attention to actual skeletal flexibility, lovingly encircled the beast's wed, spiky-furred back." (125)
THAT’S RIGHT! The picture at the front of my book looks like the picture described by Boq. Not exactly, but pretty close. The witch from the myth is like Elphaba! The witch in the picture (described by Boq) is holding the animal in a loving way, and “she was nearly motherly”. The witch cares for the animals, while other people don’t. This is similar to Elphaba, who cares for animals and the Animals. Both “witches” see past the extorter and care for the creatures. This connects with a theme in the book: looking beyond the surface.
I also have another little quirk I found in the story! You all probably got this one, but in case you didn’t, here it is! “In one form or another, we all know some of the origin myths that predate the Oziad” (114). Did anyone else connect this to the Iliad? I just thought it was so cool!